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2023Q3 Zoom Ctrl+scroll replaces change visible case function

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Ctrl+scrollwheel was used to change the visible case in a case structure etc. Now it is used for zooming. I have found that I can use Ctrl+Shift+Scrollwheel to get the old functionality, but:

1. Why replace the functionality? Zoom should be on Ctrl+Shift+Scrollwheel.

2. How can I get the old functionality back?

 

 

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@thols wrote:

Ctrl+scrollwheel was used to change the visible case in a case structure etc. Now it is used for zooming. I have found that I can use Ctrl+Shift+Scrollwheel to get the old functionality, but:

1. Why replace the functionality? Zoom should be on Ctrl+Shift+Scrollwheel.

2. How can I get the old functionality back?


1. Ctrl+Scrollwheel is a common gesture for zooming among other programs, at least among Microsoft programs.  So this is the natural gesture to a new programmer or those who did not already know the structure scroll shortcut.  The same is true for Ctrl+= and Ctrl+- (zoom in and zoom out respectively).  In LabVIEW, they used to be to change font sizes.  Those are now Ctrl+> and Ctrl+<.  And I use these a lot, so it will be an adjustment for me too.

 

2. No, you cannot get the old way back.  You can adjust your muscle memory.  We all have with other things.  I'm of the opinion that there are too many environment options already.  Let's not add more for things like this.


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@crossrulz wrote:

@thols wrote:

Ctrl+scrollwheel was used to change the visible case in a case structure etc. Now it is used for zooming. I have found that I can use Ctrl+Shift+Scrollwheel to get the old functionality, but:

1. Why replace the functionality? Zoom should be on Ctrl+Shift+Scrollwheel.

2. How can I get the old functionality back?


1. Ctrl+Scrollwheel is a common gesture for zooming among other programs, at least among Microsoft programs.  So this is the natural gesture to a new programmer or those who did not already know the structure scroll shortcut.  The same is true for Ctrl+= and Ctrl+- (zoom in and zoom out respectively).  In LabVIEW, they used to be to change font sizes.  Those are now Ctrl+> and Ctrl+<.  And I use these a lot, so it will be an adjustment for me too.

 

2. No, you cannot get the old way back.  You can adjust your muscle memory.  We all have with other things.  I'm of the opinion that there are too many environment options already.  Let's not add more for things like this.


Makes sense. 

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@thols wrote:

Ctrl+scrollwheel was used to change the visible case in a case structure etc. Now it is used for zooming. I have found that I can use Ctrl+Shift+Scrollwheel to get the old functionality, but:

1. Why replace the functionality? Zoom should be on Ctrl+Shift+Scrollwheel.

2. How can I get the old functionality back?

 

 


I was disappointed as well.  The first time was like zooming through hyperspace.  😄

 

But I did understand that it's a common way to zoom.  Just as ctrl+0 will get you back to the default zoom.

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@crossrulz  wrote:

Ctrl+Scrollwheel is a common gesture for zooming among other programs, at least among Microsoft programs.  So this is the natural gesture to a new programmer or those who did not already know the structure scroll shortcut.


Then, in the same logic they should adjust the shortcut for multi-selecting VI objects to be ctrl+click instead of shift+click. It is already the case e.g. for project items in the project explorer or user layers in the icon editor, so why not everywhere ?

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@raphschru wrote:

Then, in the same logic they should adjust the shortcut for multi-selecting VI objects to be ctrl+click instead of shift+click. It is already the case e.g. for project items in the project explorer or user layers in the icon editor, so why not everywhere ?


In the project explorer or icon editor user layers, Ctrl+Click selects multiple individual items, which is the industry standard.  Shift+Click with select a range of items.  That is different from an image type of select.  Visio uses either Ctrl+Click or Shift+Click (worked for either for me in Visio 2016).  Visual Studio 2019 does the same.  So the only objection I am seeing is that NI should let Ctrl+Click multiselect as well as Shift+Click.


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Right! We got Zoom(!) in 2023, does it work well? I have yet to install and test it.

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@Yamaeda wrote:

Right! We got Zoom(!) in 2023, does it work well? I have yet to install and test it.


It works rather well, I'd say!  There were a few cosmetic changes to how wires are highlighted, probably because the original ways looked horrible at anything other than default zoom, but it is quite acceptable.

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Has an alternate hot key been defined for "change the visible case in a case structure"?   

I do not see this feature noted as "removed" in the removed section. 

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@JohnRedman wrote:

Has an alternate hot key been defined for "change the visible case in a case structure"?   

I do not see this feature noted as "removed" in the removed section. 


Ctrl+Shift+Scroll


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