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OpenGL hardware acceleration for the LabVIEW's OpenGL graphics engine?

In another thread about running recent versions of LabVIEW on older hardware, someone mentioned that LabVIEW uses OpenGL for its graphics engine [which would make sense, because there's no such thing as DirectX for Linux or Sparc/Solaris or whatever]. This got me to thinking about the question of affordable graphics cards with good OpenGL acceleration that meshes well with LabVIEW.

Unfortunately, when I went to Google on OpenGL hardware reviews, the hits that I got were rather old [by video card standards]:

OpenGL Accelerators Reviewed
January 2, 2002
http://www.aceshardware.com/read.jsp?id=45000267

OpenGL 3D Graphics Boards
Parts I, II, and III
May 21, 2002
http://www.extremetech.com/print_article2/0,2533,a=27193,00.asp

Graphics Boosters For OpenGL Workstations
September 16, 2003
http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20030916/index.html

This leads me to believe that hardware manufacturers have pretty much abandoned the pursuit of any latent OpenGL market in favor of DirectX.

So does anyone know of an "affordable" graphics card with stable drivers that mesh well with LabVIEW's OpenGL graphics engine [maybe $50-$150, but certainly no more than about $250]?

Dual monitor support is pretty much a requirement, but I fear that [true, onboard] dual RAMDACs might be asking for a little too much, at least in this price range.

PS: There's a real nice, fairly recent summary of [true] dual RAMDAC cards here:

http://www.processor.com/articles/P2608/07p08/07p08charts.pdf
WARNING: PDF DOCUMENT

Thanks!
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Most anything from Nvidia will work really well with opengl. Nvidia seems to use more hardware implementation for opengl. ATI seems to use more software for opengl implementation. I use opengl at home for a model railroad cad program. http://www.trackplanning.com/
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I can not imagine any labview graph that would benefit from anything higher than a modest card...

That said I use cards by Matrox (Parhelia) ATI and Nvidia
The Parhelia boards are driving three LCD displays
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hi,

Look at http://www.nvidia.com/page/home.html .

All their cards support OpenGL (even on linux). The prices range from $50 to perhaps several $1000's (or even 10000's?) if you want state of the art. An old GeForce or TNT model should be cheap if you can find a vendor. 150$ should be good enough to play most of the newest games (on a modern pc).

LabVIEW actually uses the Mesa (http://www.mesa3d.org/) library, which is close related to OpenGL. I'm still not absolutely sure if Mesa benefits from hardware acceleration without recompiling the mesa source or something (it is open source). You might want to investigate before buying a card (please let us know).

Regards,

Wiebe.

"tarheel_hax0r" <x@no.email> wrote in message news:180382@exchange.ni.com...
In another thread about running recent versions of LabVIEW on older hardware, someone mentioned that LabVIEW uses OpenGL for its graphics engine [which would make sense, because there's no such thing as DirectX for Linux or Sparc/Solaris or whatever]. This got me to thinking about the question of affordable graphics cards with good OpenGL acceleration that meshes well with LabVIEW.<br><br>Unfortunately, when I went to Google on OpenGL hardware reviews, the hits that I got were rather old [by video card standards]:<br><blockquote><br><b>OpenGL Accelerators Reviewed</b><br>January 2, 2002<br><a target="_blank" href="http://www.aceshardware.com/read.jsp?id=45000267">http://www.aceshardware.com/read.jsp?id=45000267</a><br><br><b>OpenGL 3D Graphics Boards</b><br>Parts I, II, and III<br>May 21, 2002<br><a target="_blank" href="http://www.extremetech.com/print_article2/0,2533,a=27193,00.asp">http://www.extremetech.com/print_article2/0,2533,a=27193,00.asp</a><br><br><b>Graphics Boosters For OpenGL Workstations</b><br>September 16, 2003<br><a target="_blank" href="http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20030916/index.html">http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20030916/index.html</a><br></blockquote><br>This leads me to believe that hardware manufacturers have pretty much abandoned the pursuit of any latent OpenGL market in favor of DirectX.<br><br>So does anyone know of an "affordable" graphics card with stable drivers that mesh well with LabVIEW's OpenGL graphics engine [maybe $50-$150, but certainly no more than about $250]?<br><br>Dual monitor support is pretty much a requirement, but I fear that [true, onboard] dual RAMDACs might be asking for a little too much, at least in this price range.<br><br>PS: There's a real nice, fairly recent summary of [true] dual RAMDAC cards here:<br><blockquote><br><a target="_blank" href="http://www.processor.com/articles/P2608/07p08/07p08charts.pdf">http://www.processor.com/articles/P2608/07p08/07p08charts.pdf</a><br><b>WARNING: PDF DOCUMENT</b><br></blockquote><br>Thanks!
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LabVIEW actually uses the Mesa (http://www.mesa3d.org/) library, which is close related to OpenGL.

Does LabVIEW use Mesa on Win32 platforms, or just on Linux/Solaris/HPUX?
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Now that I know the keyword is "MESA", I think I am going to start a new thread about this.
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>"tarheel_hax0r" <x@no.email> wrote in message
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><i>LabVIEW actually uses the Mesa (http://www.mesa3d.org/) library, which
is close related to OpenGL.</i><br><br>Does 1
>LabVIEW use Mesa on Win32 platforms, or just on Linux/Solaris/HPUX?

LabVIEW uses Mesa on Win32, don't know for sure for Linux, but it would be
weird if it didn't.


Regards,

Wiebe.


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Please see this other thread.
- Philip Courtois, Thinkbot Solutions

Thinkbot Solutions
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http://forums.ni.com/ni/board/message?board.id=170&message.id=106852

without the target=_blank!

Mesa can be recompiled with hardware acceleration, at least for some chipsets. I guess the next question is how to recompile mesa... After that, we should be able to replace mesa.dll with the new one.

Regards,

Wiebe.
"Philip C." <x@no.email> wrote in message news:184425@exchange.ni.com...
Please see this <a href=http://forums.ni.com/ni/board/message?board.id=170&message.id=106852 target=_blank>other thread</a>.
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Please see this thread for an update on LabVIEW's hardware acceleration support.
 
Thanks,
Travis H.
LabVIEW R&D
National Instruments
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