How often is LabVIEW and NI hardware actually used in industrial applications?

[wiebe@CARYA]

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@~Its_Me~ wrote:

Hello Wiebe, what about safety related part of the control system? Do you also implement that in Labview with the use of Ni hardware? 

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Safety should always be implemented in suitable hardware. AFAIK (not a HW guy), either relays or safety PLCs, (dual) redundant if things are critical.

[JÞB]

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wiebe@CARYA wrote:

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@~Its_Me~ wrote:

Hello Wiebe, what about safety related part of the control system? Do you also implement that in Labview with the use of Ni hardware? 

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Safety should always be implemented in suitable hardware. AFAIK (not a HW guy), either relays or safety PLCs, (dual) redundant if things are critical.

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NI made an effort a few years ago to roll out suitable safety hardware.

And YES! Although fail-safe software design is VERY important,  you MUST design the hardware to fail safe first.

I could give several examples of projects that I have been involved with testing.; Positive Train Control,  class III and class IV medical devices, large scale mine equipment fire egress systems,  Fire-fighting devices, and advanced Smart ICU / Trauma response devices.  Every one of those needs to be designed to "First, do no harm!"  And, each one has the system-wide energy available to cause catastrophic results including preventable human death.

Injury to property is another consideration.   I have also had the unhappy experience of participating in a project where the test system itself was damaged every time that a "bad" DUT was placed in the test system.  Somehow,  saying "well, stop producing so much bad product!" doesn't justify the maintenance costs for repair of "Smoke Signal" Test system failure indications.

[rolfk]

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@JÞB wrote:

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wiebe@CARYA wrote:

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@~Its_Me~ wrote:

Hello Wiebe, what about safety related part of the control system? Do you also implement that in Labview with the use of Ni hardware? 

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Safety should always be implemented in suitable hardware. AFAIK (not a HW guy), either relays or safety PLCs, (dual) redundant if things are critical.

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NI made an effort a few years ago to roll out suitable safety hardware.

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They did, but since abandoned that business a few years ago. In the past I either used hard-wired safety or if it was getting a little more complex, those nifty Pilz controllers: https://www.pilz.com/en-INT