Blurry icon text

[1984]

Hi,

I'm running LV2020 under Win10 and the icon texts are getting blurry. This is not a new problem, I have found two topics about it here at ni.com (this and this)

I think I have tried pretty much everything:

- turned cleartype off

- installed small fonts again

- Change region to US (suggested on one of the knowledgebase pages)

- Added small fonts to the labview.ini

- Disabled "Smooth edges on screen fonts"

Disabling cleartype and smooth edges improved the situation a bit, but my icon texts still dont look the same as on PCs I have labview installed. The characters are not evenly spaced and eg "S" looks like an ugly "8". Definitely worse than what I have on win7

Any new ideas about this?

Thanks!

Example: icon should say "PRESS" looks like this:

[paul_cardinale]

How about an old idea: AVOID PUTTING TEXT IN ICONS!

[billko]

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@1984 wrote:

Hi,

I'm running LV2020 under Win10 and the icon texts are getting blurry. This is not a new problem, I have found two topics about it here at ni.com (this and this)

I think I have tried pretty much everything:

- turned cleartype off

- installed small fonts again

- Change region to US (suggested on one of the knowledgebase pages)

- Added small fonts to the labview.ini

- Disabled "Smooth edges on screen fonts"

Disabling cleartype and smooth edges improved the situation a bit, but my icon texts still dont look the same as on PCs I have labview installed. The characters are not evenly spaced and eg "S" looks like an ugly "8". Definitely worse than what I have on win7

Any new ideas about this?

Thanks!

Example: icon should say "PRESS" looks like this:

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I've seen this when, for some dumb reason, my computer ended up with TWO different versions of the small fonts and had the wrong one selected.  Also, small fonts don't scale well.  I keep mine at "9".

[1984]

"How about an old idea: AVOID PUTTING TEXT IN ICONS!"

I dont care about your old idea, I care about the solution to the problem I have described. If you can't contribute then do not respond. I know it could be hard for someone pressing his idea with block capitals, but keep trying.

[1984]

"I've seen this when, for some dumb reason, my computer ended up with TWO different versions of the small fonts and had the wrong one selected.  Also, small fonts don't scale well.  I keep mine at "9"."

Small fonts appear twice in my list as well, but no matter which one I select the icon looks the same. This PC has a relatively new win10 and I have installed LV2020 just a week ago. I have noticed this problem eariler but I ignored it until today cause I thought that anti-aliasing icon texts is a new LV feature I can turn off from a menu.

[altenbach]

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@1984 wrote:

Example: icon should say "PRESS" looks like this:

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This has nothing to do with "blurry" or cleartype, else you would see colored boundaries and shades. Your font is razor sharp with clear delineation of the pixels.

Do you use any custom scaling in the windows display properties?

Here is how it look on my system (Characters are the same height: 5 pixels):

[1984]

"This has nothing to do with "blurry" or cleartype, else you would see colored boundaries and shades. Your font is razor sharp with clear delineation of the pixels"

Actually it has a lot do with cleartype, as the picture I have posted is the result once cleartype and "Smooth edges on screen fonts" are turned off. If I dont do these then the fonts look "anti-aliased". 

"Do you use any custom scaling in the windows display properties?"

Uhm... what do you mean by that? Where can I find this setting?

"Here is how it look on my system (Characters are the same height: 5 pixels"

Lucky you mate... This is what I'd like to see.

[paul_cardinale]

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@1984 wrote:

"How about an old idea: AVOID PUTTING TEXT IN ICONS!"

I dont care about your old idea, I care about the solution to the problem I have described. If you can't contribute then do not respond. I know it could be hard for someone pressing his idea with block capitals, but keep trying.

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OK, I tried.  No luck though: I can't stop hating text-based icons.

[altenbach]

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@1984 wrote:

"This has nothing to do with "blurry" or cleartype, else you would see colored boundaries and shades. Your font is razor sharp with clear delineation of the pixels"

Actually it has a lot do with cleartype, as the picture I have posted is the result once cleartype and "Smooth edges on screen fonts" are turned off. If I dont do these then the fonts look "anti-aliased". 

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Thanks for the clarification. I could not determine at what stage of troubleshooting you took the picture 😉

[1984]

Yeah, you're right, that was not clear. Without turning those options off the result is megablurry as it shows under the links I've included.

Its quite amazing that there is no simple solution to this one.