04-06-2011 04:16 AM
to design an VI such that we can vary % of harmonics injecting to the fundamental wave
1) fundamental, pure sine wave= 50hz
2) harmonics injected= 100 hz ( ie, 1st harmonic) ( harmonics is the integral multiple of fundamental wave)
then we add both pure and harmonic , to get combination = distortion ( shown in gragh as combination)
then we pass through filter, and reproduce pure sine wave.
now here,, next step is to find out how much % of harmonic has to be injected to get the distortion,
ie.., 1% of 100hz= does not make any change
10% 100hz = some changes
30% of 100hz = some more changes in distortion
40% of 100 hz = more changes
here now to design to specify these % of harmonic injection????????
like supose we want to send only 10 % of 100hz harmonic frequency,
04-07-2011 11:44 AM
Hello pruthvi,
I'm afraid I need a little more clarification of what you are hoping to do. What is it that you are trying to have happen? When you say adding a % of a harmonic, do you mean a % of the frequency or of the amplitude? And is this more of a theory question or a LabView question?
Regards,
Joe S.
04-11-2011 12:59 AM
DEAR SIR,
thanks for reply
its more of practical implementation
its adding frequency,
if 1) fundamental frequency = 50hz
2) harmonic = 1st harmonic 100hz
but we need to design such that we should apply 10 % of 100 hz
then, 20 % of 100 hz
then 30% of `100hz.... so on..
now in this VI i have designed such we can apply whole 100hz once,, not each indiviual % of 100 hz
kindly give some inputs how to design such that we can apply 10% or 20% or 30 % or 40 % of 100hz.
kindly reply
thank you
04-11-2011 08:45 AM
Multiply the 100 Hz signal by 0.1, 0.2, ... before adding it to the other harmonics.
Phase shift is more difficult.
Lynn
04-13-2011 05:35 AM
dear sir,,
the sugession which u gave,, really worked,, but the thing is ,, i have to recollect the %THD, which we have given in the input,,
fundamental frequency= 50hz
harmonic= 100 hz
10 % of 100hz= 100 * 0.1 = harmonic input
fundamental + harmonic ( 10% of 100hz) = harmonic diatortion
in the harmonic distortion we need to indicate same 10% harmonic has detected,
concept is after injecting the harmonics from the input side to fundamental sine wave=> we need to detect that same harmonic % from distortion.
i have tried harmonic distortion analyzier icon to measure the THD,, but i could not succed to get exact % of harmonics as we have given in input.
i have attached my revised VI with this , kindly check
05-19-2011 04:14 AM
we have filter the harmonic distortion to reproduce the pure fundamental sine wave.
by appling iir filter coefficients to the rms value of the harmonic distortion using arithmetic operators, we have to filter the harmonics and get back pure fundamnetal signal
suppose fundqamental =60hz==> rms= 240 volts
fundamental+ 1st harmonic+2nd harmonic+3rd harmonic=harmonic distortion =259volts or 270volts( depending on number of harmonics added)
we need to filter this distortion 259volts to get back 240volts appling filter coefficients on this voltage.
iir filter have reverse and farword coefficients.
kindly give me an idea how can i filter these distortion using coefficients.
coefficients-- rev . coefficients== -3.2454, 4.356, 3.0034, 0.0234
fwd coefficients= 0.0113, 00000,0.0234,0000,0.01115
05-19-2011 07:00 AM
Your requirements seem to being changing continually.
What definition of THD are you using? Several different definitions have been used and they are not all equivalent.
How did you select those coefficients? What is the specified filter characteristic?
Lynn
05-19-2011 10:52 PM
ya i agree with u sir,
my project has taken litle divviation
since i am designing in lab view, later it has to me implemented in microprocessor. it has to be in basic design.
there are direct icons in lab view, such as IIR CASCADE FILTER, which will use filter coefficients and input signal and filters the signal and gives only output
as fundamental.
but practically we can not implement this icons,
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by using only arithmetic and trignometric operators we need to design a filter that will filter the distortion and get the filtered pure fundamental value.
05-19-2011 11:16 PM
THD%= SQRT( H1 SQRE+ H2 SQURE+---------------------------+HnSQR)
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H1
THIS formula iam usng this formula.
i have designed this formula in labview.
now i need to use filter coeffiecints to filter the distortion by using arithmetic and trignometric operators.
or else
can u suggest me any method of designing filter with only arithmetic opeators and trignometric operators.
now main purpose is to design a filter that filters out the distortion of any number of harmonics H1+H1+H3------------ and finally gives pure fundamental sine wave.
06-02-2011 01:17 AM
IIR Cascade Filter with I.C. (DBL) this icon in the lab view, filters the harmonic distortion by using the filter coefficients, can any 1 tell me how does this icon work, whats the internal logic behind this, i have uploded picture of this icon, i have searched in ggogle i am not getting.
kindly reply
thanking you
rashmi