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Has anyone done eddy current, looking for cracks in brass, with a thin wall?

Has anyone done eddy current, looking for cracks in brass, with a thin wall?

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Hi ljn,

 

Can you be a little more specific on your application? For example, do you have a hardware spec question regarding which NI device will meet your needs? Or is this more of a programming how-to?

 

Thanks.

 

Josh L.

Applications Engineer
National Instruments
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I wrote a driver for a an instrument made by Foerster Instruments years ago. They Pittsburgh shop was closed down and I don't know where thy are now or if they are now but...

 

They specialized in eddy current measurments and could develop probes for most apps. You may want to try and chase them down or find out who took over their business.

 

Ben

Retired Senior Automation Systems Architect with Data Science Automation LabVIEW Champion Knight of NI and Prepper LinkedIn Profile YouTube Channel
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Hi ljn,

 

I think you might find the link below useful.

 

http://www.ni.com/nvh/

 

I would also recommend that you get in contact with one of our alliance members for a proof of concept. 

 

Regards,

 

Josh L.

Applications Engineer
National Instruments
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Eddy current measurement subject the sample to a magnetic field and look for eddy currents as a way to detect flaws in a material. It is a form of non-desrcutive testing. I don't know what that has to do with noise...

 

Ben

 

 

Retired Senior Automation Systems Architect with Data Science Automation LabVIEW Champion Knight of NI and Prepper LinkedIn Profile YouTube Channel
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I used to do eddy current inspection in machined parts, mostly aluminum.  It should work well in brass tubing, as long as the tubing is homogenous.  But if the material has been brazed or otherwise had its properties modified, that could mask defects.

 

Ben is correct; it measures the inductive coupling of eddy currents.  A coil with a high frequency signal is held close to the part under tests, and it induces "eddy currents" to flow in the part.  The eddy currents create magnetic fields that in turn, affect the impedence of the coil.  When the eddy currents encounter a discontinuity in the material, the current path length changes and the inductive coupling changes.  The tester detects that change in impedence.

 

We had a Magnaflux instrument when I did this kind of work (15+ years ago), but when I look at their website I don't see any mention of eddy current instruments. 

 

What I recall about eddy current testing is that the fixturing and the calibration standard were very important.   In theory (and in the sales literature) you could operate the test probe free hand, but in my experience, it was almost always necessary to build a fixture to  maintain the relative alignment between the probe and the part under test.  Likewise, it was usually necessary to manufacture a calibration standard which was nearly identical in all respects to the part to be tested, except for the addition of manufactured defects (usually notches cut by EDM) to calibrate the eddy current machine.

 

Ed

Edward Motts
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The parts are machined, and it would be part of an automated inspection machine.

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@ljn wrote:

The parts are machined, and it would be part of an automated inspection machine.


So far none of has personally done brass.

 

Does that answer your question?

 

Ben

Retired Senior Automation Systems Architect with Data Science Automation LabVIEW Champion Knight of NI and Prepper LinkedIn Profile YouTube Channel
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Good afternoon all,

 

in a continuous copper billet casting machine i have installed a Foerster eddy current test instrument (SIGMATEST 2.069) for measurement
of electrical conductivity of non-ferrous metals (copper in this case).

This instrument has RS-232 communication with its software, which uses AT commands to send/receive data.

 

What i want to do is the following:

according to the electrical conductivity of the copper billet, i want to control an analog output linearly or with algorithm.

 

You said that you have created a driver for this instrument. Is this driver able to transfer data from sigmatest to Labview,

and through an analog output card to make my job?

 

As you can understand, i want to make a pc with Labview, a plc that controls a process (slow process).

Also, can i use more complex algorithms with more inputs for this process ( temperature, weight ) ?

 

Thank you in advance,

 

Ippokratis,

Electrical Engineer

 

 

Sigmatest 2.069 info:   http://www.foerstergroup.com/SIGMATEST.171.0.html?&no_cache=1&cid=398&did=1285&sechash=21049b05

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