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Why built in mean has side effect on parallel loop

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This is simple parallel loop to process mean value of each waveform.

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When using Tools->Profile->Find Parallelizable Loops, it says:

This For Loop may or may not be safe to parallelize. Warning(s):
- One or more nodes in the For Loop may have side effects.

 

So why? Is it non-reentrant?

 

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"May not be safe" does not mean it is unsafe. I think it is safe to parallelize. 

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The Mean function calls an internal NI function, which may (or may not/ be reentrant.  You can always code up your own Mean code easily enough, and could make it reentrant -- that would probably fix your problem.

 

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How about built in filter pallattes? Unlikely to be written by myself. 

It also has warning for the side effect. It seems like the Labview profiler has no knowlege whether an internal NI function is reentrant or not.

Is it?

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Or it can't tell if it is reentrant. This might be a limitation of the Windows ecosystem.

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Well, it is inlined and reentrant,  and the compiler knows that. 🙂

 

Are you pressed for performance? How big are the waveforms? You might want to benchmark with/without parallelization to see if the parallelization overhead is actually worth it.

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I think it is the DLL call that the tool is worried about.  Not many DLLs out there are actually thread safe.

 

EDIT: Just looks at the Mean.vi function.  It is NOT reentrant.  Therefore you really could not run many of these in parallel.


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Well, the diagram shown here is just to simplify my question. 

In fact, my concern is how far I can rely on the Labview profiler to tell me a parallelism is safe (or worked) or not.

 

It seems like conclusion from you guys is warning is the best advice that the profiler can give for those pre-compiled functions.

No direct way (maybe?) to figure out whether they are re-entrant / thread-safe.

 

Think so.

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hongcc1 wrote:

It seems like conclusion from you guys is warning is the best advice that the profiler can give for those pre-compiled functions.

No direct way (maybe?) to figure out whether they are re-entrant / thread-safe.


DLLs, not really.  VIs, open them up and look at the VI Properties->Execution.


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crossrulz wrote:

EDIT: Just looks at the Mean.vi function.  It is NOT reentrant.  Therefore you really could not run many of these in parallel.


What LabVIEW version are you using? I checked in both 2013SP1 and 2014SP1 and mean.vi is [reentrant, preallocate clone, inlined]. Seems absolutely safe to parallelize.

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